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#1 User is offline   AL78 

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Posted 2026-January-15, 16:21

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Club game MPs, red against green.

After two passes, RHO opens a weak 2. What do you do?
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Posted 2026-January-15, 16:36

I bid 3 taking it to 4 over any other bid. This hand should play ok somewhere between 3 & 4 if partner has little.

Or you could swap 3 asking for a stopper to both minors as I guess the frequency of the bid would be higher.
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Posted Yesterday, 04:28

You can't afford to pass missing a vulnerable minor suit game if partner has fit and 1 ace.

A dummy good enough for 5 for instance


So bid whatever shows minors, whatever shows a two suiter with one of your suits or in case neither option is available 3.

Yes it is risky, and it could lead to disaster but you just can't sell out too cheaply.
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Posted Yesterday, 05:01

I bid 3, I didn't like it but we had no way of showing a minor two suiter other than maybe 4NT and I didn't think the hand was strong enough for that.



What do you think partner has and what do you do now?
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Posted Yesterday, 05:22

View PostAL78, on 2026-January-16, 05:01, said:

I bid 3, I didn't like it but we had no way of showing a minor two suiter other than maybe 4NT and I didn't think the hand was strong enough for that.



What do you think partner has and what do you do now?

I guess he has a limited 6-suiter inviting 4. Stick to plan and bid 4. This shows the strength bound 55 shape. 4 would have been unlimitted.
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Posted Yesterday, 08:47

I was struggling to think of a hand which can bid 3 but couldn't open 1 or 2 and I assumed it was a weak two hand that partner decided was unsuitable for opening second at red, in which case it is a misfit hand and we aren't really going anywhere so I decided to pass. By either luck or judgement I wasn't far off:



This was +140 and a joint top. Several people bid game in spades or NT going down. Someone went two off in 3 and one South was allowed to play in 2 two down.

Partner said he didn't want to open 3 with a four card major on the side.
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Posted Yesterday, 15:43

View PostAL78, on 2026-January-16, 08:47, said:

Partner said he didn't want to open 3 with a four card major on the side.

I also wouldn't open 3 with that crappy suit in 2nd seat unfavorable.

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Posted Yesterday, 16:45

View Postbarmar, on 2026-January-16, 15:43, said:

I also wouldn't open 3 with that crappy suit in 2nd seat unfavorable.

On the contrary I think that an agreement not to open this hand is looking for trouble, even 2nd seat unfavourable and (all the more reason) with a 4 card major side suit.
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Posted Yesterday, 21:44

I would open East's hand, but it's close between 2&3 at these colours. Opening 2 I would find the s on this hand.
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